Feb 13, 2009

On Right Wing Talk and the evil Fairness Doctrine

From the KC radio discussion room....in the backdrop of some Dems, including Bill Clinton, wanting to revisit the 1970's "Fairness Doctrine" that used to require radio be "fair and balanced" and not just broadcast ONE political viewpoint....a topic that has today's talk radio hosts scared shitless because most of them only shill for the Republicans!

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Posted by rman on 2/12/2009, 6:31 pm, in reply to "Re: sell"

Shanin and Parks on KMBZ's afternoon talk show are... holding on tight to the choir of conservative listeners, and there are enough of them to keep an acceptable audience. No one in KC wants to be dominant. To bring in EVERYONE.

It was funny catching Stigall, KCMO-AM's right leaning talk show morning host this morning... he probably didn't intend to release so many listener endorphins when he played some soft jazz. I think his stunt having to do with FCC control of radio actually backfired. For KC needs a smooth jazz station on the FM. And we all know it. Major miscalculation on his part, I think. And a few listeners told him so, subtly. Tho he threw them off his show quickly so the topic wouldn't change. He has his points to make about the Fairness Doctrine and talk show hosts view callers as PROPS, not as guides to move a discussion.

Chris Stigall's far less than honest with his listeners. And that's really too bad. But then, like you suggest, there seem to be two kinds of callers. Ones who are way too informed and must be GOP party operatives and contributors as they call in with perfect GOP talking points... and ones dumb as rocks with rural Missouri hick accents...sounding very much like they sheep they probably fancy when no one is watching.


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Posted by Reagan Conservative on 2/13/2009, 4:56 pm, in reply to...

Rman, you're soft in the head.

1) Smooth Jazz is a dying format. (So you have something in common with it.)

2) The Fairness Doctrine is censorship. Liberals seem to forget that when it was abolished (for good reason)the talk radio landscape was a blank canvas. Liberal talk had just as much of a shot at it as conservatives. What happened? The market decided and people voted with the buttons on their radios. Conservative talk was more popular. But that drives the lefties nuts...because, even though they have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR and almost every major newspaper in their pockets, they just can't crack talk radio.

Unless, of course, they can get the government to had it to them on a platter. And that's just what they'll try to do. Because more is never enough for them.

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Radioman responds here, cuz he's banned from the radio room and sometimes it's too tiresome coming in there with a proxy ip address, so I'll move the Fairness Doctrine discussion to this blog.


Rman, you're soft in the head.

(RMAN in black bold:) Well, politics and viewpoints and debate are all about parsing words. Fine. I'll take a vowel for fifty.

(Reagan Conservative in RED) 1) Smooth Jazz is a dying format. (So you have something in common with it.)

Nice cheap shot about my age, but thanks to today's medications, I'll be around with you supporting me for DECADES!.

Now then. Smooth Jazz isn't a 'format' except on XM. It's a kind of music. It's a relaxing mood setter, great for petting your honey with the lights low, great even for computer programming and reading because it affects the emotions but normally isn't so familiar it engages the left brain to distract you. PLenty of artists play it and have made vastly more money than you ever will, so maybe you're talking above your pay grade. Smooth Jazz is for grownups in a mellow mood. I'm fine with XM's several jazz stations. You just can't dance, white boy!

2) The Fairness Doctrine is censorship. Liberals seem to forget that when it was abolished (for good reason)the talk radio landscape was a blank canvas.

It's not 'censorship', if we can play the word parsing game. It's REGULATION. It says you WILL provide balance and not propaganda if you are on the public airwaves because DEBATE, not PROPAGANDA is in the "public interest." Remember "public interest?"

Liberal talk had just as much of a shot at it as conservatives. What happened? The market decided and people voted with the buttons on their radios. Conservative talk was more popular.

'Conservative' is pretty much all that's available. Who says the only alternative is LEFT leaning?

It's RADIO that has decided that there can only be ONLY ONE VIEWPOINT or the other BUT NOT "OBJECTIVE". That's new. Objective, fair and balanced used to be a virtue. But not today. Not by today's talk show hosts who would like us all to think that one-sided propaganda's always been the way it was. NOT SO! Objective viewpoints used to be the way ethical journalists did things.

That's changed with today's radio profits when broadcasters discovered right wing listeners are both blind and LOYAL to radio hosts who espouse their views!


Rush calls it the "new media", when in fact, it's just propaganda that's lost interest in the 'public interest'.


The guy couldn't find "Fair" with both hands! The best talk show model hasn't yet been devised. It almost was with Hannity & Colmes but Fox really just wanted a foil for Hannity, not real debate.


But that drives the lefties nuts...because, even though they have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR and almost every major newspaper in their pockets, they just can't crack talk radio.

Time for conservatives to QUIT treating progressives as 'lefties'. Its arrogant and frankly conservatives track record hasn't been so good... for few honest people will deny that capitalists and bankers need some regulation. That's a progressive notion, I guess. But conservatives on the radio are free not to bring up the BALANCING viewpoints...despite that they've lost much of their fortunes to the SEC's lack of aggressiveness under the last president.

Most reasonable Americans look for the US GOVERNMENT to balance between freedom and government regulation. Obama would seek to find ways to get Americans together on this, rather than constantly debating political theologies with each other. That's gridlock. And that's how the capitalists managed to grab American's fortunes for themselves when no one was looking!


INCLUDING YOURS, you GOP dumbass who has way less net worth than you used to!!!) Who would deny that's why we're in the shit-storm we're in!
Tell me you're not pissed off too!!

Unless, of course, they can get the government to hand it to them on a platter. And that's just what they'll try to do. Because more is never enough for them.

(Yeah, right!)

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